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This font has no idea what it wants to be when it grows up. Stupid designer.
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it's really becoming tiresome how good you are. I'd buy Fontlab and start producing professionally you'd make some serious dosh.
PAYING FOR DOWNLOADS
I'm trying to get Fonstruct to charge people who downloads fonts. Say $2-$5 each download. Fontsrtruct take $1, the designer takes the rest. That way everyone gets paid for their creativity and effort. What do you think could it work?
Is the "All Alone" part forced Italic?
@djnippa: not shore how Fontstruct would work commercialy, licensing issues, lack of opentype features, ttf format,...besides the free word atracts a lot more people.
If Thalamic or any one else wants to make money out of there fontstructions they should keep them private and then try to sell them else were.
i love the '0'.
(and i'm not going to make sex to it. it's platonic, you know.)
i love the "un-kerned ...", too. :)
I have Fontlab. I did my master's in advertising. I wanted to do the thesis on type and typography but that wouldn't have fulfilled the requirement for it. Being advertising, I had to do a full ad campaign, among other things. I wasn't ready to give up on type so I got creative. I decided to promote a new type foundry that specialized in multi-lingual fonts. What self respecting designer would do a master's thesis with someone else's typeface? So I had to generate a new typeface just so I would have something new to promote in the ad campaign. The typeface took four times longer to do than all the other work combined. I had to learn all about OpenType, Unicode, Volt, etc., etc. from a huge list of resources that didn't really feel like being anything close to helpful (excluding the Fontlab manual, i.e., which is excellent). I have no idea how I got it all done in time. Ah...enough reminiscing. The point is: I have Fontlab and the thesis font was the only font I ever did on it. It is hard frickin' work. I don't think I have the energy or drive or consistency of nature to do it over (and over) again. That's why I love FontStruct—I just play with it to avoid boredom and occasionally come up with something I am not embarrassed to share.
As for being paid for it…the thought never occurred to me. FontStruct is to me what video games are to others. But if you go the paid route, there would have to be a whole slew of rules, such as the characters that must be present, some standard type design criteria, originality, etc., etc. that must be met to make a font eligible for payment. It’s unlikely to happen here, nor is it my interest.
PS: You are second-to-none yourself.
@jmarquez: Thanks. It’s Faux-Italic in Photoshop. Someday, if I feel brave enough, I will do a true italic in FontStruct.
@guentersen: Thanks, buddy. Are you sure you won’t change your mind about sexing up the 0? It’s the perfect shape for it.
@dada: Thanks.
djnippa is right. I see your stuff and almost lose heart in my own.
@SquarePeg: Your encouragement always makes me feel good about myself. Thank you.
Well said! And I heartily agree. :-)
There are a number of reasons to bring in a small charge for each download.
1) Some people spend hours, days & weeks perfecting their fontstruct. Surely that deserves some form of payment. Charging $2-$5 is a small amount, considering the effort and skill some people put in.
2) Some designers have had over 1000 downloads x $2-$5 that's $2000-$5000 dollars! That's great money in anyone's books.
3) It would not scare anyone away, it would do completely the opposite, as there's a possible chance that everyone can make money.
4) It would increase the number of Fontstructs. The more you have out there the more chance you have of making money.
5) It would bring an even higher standard of Fontographers to this site.
6) More Fontogrphers = more fontstructs
7) A few quality designers have already left the site, as Thalamic said, if there was more of a financial incentive they would have probably stayed.
8) Why should people design fonts on this site, then try and sell them on another site? Surely Fontstruct & Meek should take some of the profit for providing the service and tools used to create the font in the first place.
9) It would turn out to be similar to hugely successful www.istockphoto.com - the better you are the more you make.
10) There could also be a no charge option available if you want to give it away.
There are many more other good pointers to bring in a fee for downloading a font. I'm sure they'll come to light as the discussion heats up.
The negatives are far out weighed by the positives in my book.
All I know at the moment is, it is being discussed as a possibility. To me it makes perfect sense. i'd gladly pay $5 for downloading Thalamic's stuff.
A groovy, groovy font thal, and I'm completely with you on your Illustrator/Fontlab comment. I'm learning Illustrator by creating a font in it (I've always been crap at Illustrator). It's daunting just how much freedom there is to do whatever takes your fancy. If I didn't have the discipline of FS I wouldn't be getting any further than foxgloves.
@djnippa: paying. Now there's an idea... my wife often hints I could be getting paid for doing what I do on this site. With this idea I could fob her off for for another few months...
Just joking...
I never meant that fontstruct or Meek or any fonstructor don’t deserve to be paid for their (Hard/Talented/Inspirational) work. But right now trying to profit from fontsctructions can’t be done through Fontstruc’s site so youre better of trying to sell them somewhere else.
I agree with you that a fontstructor should be rewarded if he chooses to be so, the “10) There could also be a no charge option available if you want to give it away” Is a great idea. Or maybe there could be a donation type of system.
There should be a Fontstruc Forum so that we could debate things like this in a more “public way” and not just in Thalamic’s Confused Font. :)
@intaglio: Don't forget to show me what you came up with in Illustrator. I'm already looking forward to it.
I'd like to see more discussion of the for-pay idea too. I'm of two minds about it, but think a discussion would be good.
Thanks for the encouragement, it means a lot.
I have no formal training in typography, graphic design, or anything related. I'm an IT/programmer by education, training, and career, but I love type and design related stuff.
Thanks for the link to the book, I'll definitely check it out.
I've never implemented a web forum, but I'd be willing to help out. No traffic estimates or storage estimates though! :)
I have so much to say on the concept of commercializing fontstructions that I don't know where to begin. I'm right there with djnippa on many of his points and then some. But I don't want to add to any uncomfortability on this subject here.
Stewf has posted a great article on going pro on Typographica.
PS. Since Guentersen is platonic with the O, I think I'll ask her out for a Valentine's Day date. I'll let you know how it goes.
thanks for that link, gene.
@geneus1: Thanks for the kind words, encouragement and the link. How fortunate to have StumbleUpon! FontStruct not just because I know so much more about type as a result but because I know so many other typophiles.
@kix: Danke.
I ordered Stop Stealing Sheep & Find Out How Type Works...hope to receive it this week. I'm really looking forward to it.
PS. So I went out with O on our big Valentine's date, but nothing happened. As you can see, it appears she was on her period.
Why do you tag it sans serif and serif?
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