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A FUTURISTIC LETTER “A”!!
MY FUNNY LETTER “K”!!
AN OVER-EXTENDED EM DASH!!
WEIRD UPSIDE-DOWN CYRILLIC LETTERS THAT NOBODY’S HEARD OF!!
IT’S ALL HERE IN MY NEW FONT — ALDRON.
I THOUGHT THAT THIS FONT NEEDED MORE ATTENTION THAN THE ONE THAT I CLONED IT FROM, WHICH WAS MADE IN A COUPLE OF HOURS. AS WELL AS ADDING THE LATIN AND GREEK ALPHABETS, I MADE A FEW ADDITIONS AND ADJUSTMENTS TO THE CYRILLIC LETTERS AS WELL AS SPACING. AND UNLIKE ITS PREDECESSOR, THIS ONE IS KERNED.
IT WAS QUITE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE, ACTUALLY, ADAPTING A CYRILLIC FONT FOR LATIN INSTEAD OF VICE VERSA.
INTENDED LANGUAGE SUPPORT
• БЕЛАРУСКАЯ МОВА — BELARUSIAN
• БЪЛГАРСКИ — BULGARIAN
• HRVATSKI — CROATIAN
• ČEŠTINA — CZECH
• ENGLISH
• ESPERANTO
• DEUTSCH — GERMAN
• ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΆ — GREEK
• ITALIANO — ITALIAN
• ҚАЗАҚША — CYRILLIC KAZAKH
• МАКЕДОНСКИ — MACEDONIAN
• TE REO MĀORI
• ROMÂNĂ — ROMANIAN
• РУССКИЙ — RUSSIAN
• SRPSKI, СРПСКИ — LATIN AND CYRILLIC SERBIAN
• SLOVENČINA — SLOVAK
• SLOVENŠČINA — SLOVENIAN
• УКРАЇНСЬКА — UKRAINIAN
AVAILABLE CHARACTERS (★✰*ALL KERNED YAY!!!!!✰*✪)
LATIN: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ĀÁÂÄĂĆČĈĎĐDŽĒÉÈǴĜĤĪÍÎĴĹĽLJŃŇNJŌÓÒÔÖŔŘŚŠŜȘẞŤȚŪÚÜŬŮÝŹŽ
GREEK: ΑΒΓΔΕΖΗΘΙΚΛΜΝΞΟΠΡΣΤΥΦΧΨΩ ΆΈΉΊΪΌΎΫΏ
CYRILLIC: АБВГДЕЁЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯ ӘЀЃҐҒЂЄЅЍІЇЈЌҚЉҢЊӨЋЎҮҰҺЏ
THE NUMBERBET: 0123456789
PUNCTUATION: ()[]!?.…:;,„“”‘’-—«»*• AND OF COURSE, SPACE
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THIS SAMPLE FEATURES ALL OF THE SUPPORTED LANGUAGES.
SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS FONT AND THE ONE THAT IT WAS CLONED FROM.
BACKGROUND IMAGE FROM KNIGHT RIDER.
A RUSSIAN PANGRAM (CONTAINS EVERY LETTER IN THE ALPHABET) THAT I CAME UP WITH. IT MEANS: “THE MAGGOT JUDGED THE GYPSIES AT THE AIRPORT MEASURING THE VOLUME OF THE FUSELAGE WITH A POTATO.”
CHALLENGE: EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN GRAPHICAL STYLE. WHATEVER YOUR STYLE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT! MAKE A SAMPLE WITH THIS FONT TO TEST OUT ITS VERSATILITY!
Great fontstruction @TH3 – definitely something to shout about, but maybe not literally?
@Rob Meek (meek)
Haha I just hate lower-case letters. In my mind, there’s no reason for them. And I like the look and consistency of capitals better, hence this font. You might think that it’s harder to read body text that’s all in capitals, but that’s only because we’re accustomed to lower case — something that can easily be changed over time. Since this is my own font on my own page, I thought that I’d have every right to use capitals if I wanted to! Of course when talking to others, I don’t want to offend them, so I use lower case.
@Rob Meek (meek)
Also, have you considered adding kerning classes to FontStruct? I spent four entire days literally nonstop kerning this.
Edit: And my family probably think that I’m insane now.
DAAAMMNNN WHAT?? good works right there, multiling gang :D
WOW! This took a lot of effort… 11/10
"A proportion of random kerning pairs do not currently work in the downloaded file — a glitch across all fonts that FontStruct needs to fix" I don't think kerning of mixed scripts work very well on certain systems…
@JingYo
Thank you, спасибо, gracias, and 谢谢.
@BWM
Thanx. The scripts are only kerned to themselves. The punctuation is also kerned to itself and every script. Still there are discrepancies. It happens on every font that I do kerning for, that’s why I don’t normally do it. I even test it in a font programme, and there’s just no data for the pairs that I’ve noticed.
I’m not too concerned about it, though. I have every faith in the FontStruct team to fix it at some point. All of the proper kerning data is still stored in the FontStruct editor.
@Merrybot
Thank you very much. Yeah, the text markup is currently broken. I think that it’s been like that since Rob filtered JavaScript injections out due to my Rickroll.
Question:
@BWM
I don’t know of any languages that have a reversed “K”! I’d probably go for number one, though.
OTHER FONTS WITH THIS “K”
https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/1704198/woodend
https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/1702090/whakaiti
https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/1702314/motu-2
https://fontstruct.com/fontstructions/show/1627619/zntrog
https://www.parallax.net.nz/#fonts/myHandwriting.html
Lowercase letters are not to blame, and it’s easier and faster to write - because they were invented. And traditions are traditions, because it’s not always so easy to change them (although you are right about the habit). Many Russian designers envy the smoothness of lowercase Latin letters, but we still have beautiful handwritten lowercase letters in italic. But maybe,
this unusualness just attracts, and the design works on this to play on unusualness. And, as I said, humanistic forms have more “souls."
Here is another font with such K - Rikos. Forms of letters are born by themselves, if necessary, so that you can not patent them. But they can become a style-building element,
the main thing is not to get stuck in one style forever, when there is no further way for its development.
By the way, since the font K is unusual, it would be possible to make an unusual Ф without ascander and descender (as I did in mortido), but you have already kerned everything - so you are unlikely to change it (and it’s not worth it). But I have to say, what are you doing in B S without optical compensation,
this is normal for a display (displayed in large sizes) font, but why then your Б is having so short takeaway?
I also made a clone where I tried the retro effects of the 80s - your font is great for them. Do you want to finish the new style yourself, or do it for me?
@Merrybot
I’m not sure what you mean. I don’t think that weight has anything to do with how much kerning is involved. Be assured, there is A LOT of kerning. I have an unusual view of spacing — I think that no matter what, the left extremity of the letter should always touch the “LEFT” line, and the “WIDTH” line should always touch the right extremity. I do this so that it displays properly on web pages, and bits don’t get cut off — or the opposite: Too much gap before the first letter. I’m sure that you can see how much kerning is then involved when a letter like “Δ is spaced according to its diacritic.
@Dmitriy Sychiov (Sychoff)
I have to disagree with you there. I primarily write in capitals; Lower-case letters therefore take me much longer to write out on paper. You know, the reason why I started learning Russian in the first place was through making fonts on FontStruct — it’s where I got introduced to the Cyrillic script (кроме логотипа «Аэрофлот» — каждый знает его)). I really like how a lot of the lower-case letters are the same as the capitals. The designers shouldn’t be envious; In my opinion, they have a stylistic advantage.
Про «Б»: ты говоришь о вершине? Я просто хотел, чтобы она была такой же длины, как и вершина «Г».
Мне нравится твоё clone. Пожалуйста продолжай с ним; я от FontStruct отдыхаю.
@Merrybot
Ah, I see. I think that the font would need to be about double the size on the grid for the kerning to become ineffective. As you can see with: “AW”, this font has quite exaggerated kerning, even with its large size.
Kerning level 100‽
UPDATE
• ADDED GERMAN AND ITALIAN SUPPORT.
• COMPLETED BULGARIAN AND MACEDONIAN SUPPORT.
• KERNED “L” TO “U” (AND ALL OF THEIR DERIVATIVES).
@Merrybot
Thanx for the chart. I actually found these very useful while making this font (although they didn’t include “Ѐ” and “Ѝ” for Macedonian and Bulgarian).
I know that French is a very popular language (I studied it for two years), but I don’t really want to include it in this font. I’m not trying to insult anyone, but I just don’t like the way it looks — the same goes for Polish, the last major Slavic language that I haven’t supported. Sorry to disappoint you.
@Merrybot
I know. But ever since I find out about that one word it was bugging me that I didn’t include the simple alteration. It’s not the actual drawing of the letter that’s the problem, it’s kerning it consistently with everything else that’s already been kerned. That’s why I think that adding kerning classes to FontStruct would be a good idea; “Ѝ” could just be added to the same group that other letters are already kerned to (such would include: “И”, “Е”, “М”, etc.).
@Merrybot
Instead of kerning individual letters to each other, you kern groups, or classes, of letters to each other. So “V” and “W” would be in the same class, because their sides are the same shape, so they fit with the same letters identically. Does that make sense? “K” and “X” could perhaps be in the same class for their right side. “C”, “G”, “O”, and “Q” could be in the same class for their left side — because the shapes are the same. But most importantly, accented characters can be in the same class as the fundamental letter.
@Merrybot
Well, the way I do it, those letters will pretty much always be a pain, yes ;)
I think the numerals might be possible to do, but let's see if TCM has the time…
@BWM @Merrybot
On it.
@Merrybot
Thank you. I’ll finish them in a couple of days time.
UPDATE
ADDED “(”, “)”, “[”, “]”, “?”, “!”, “;”, “*”, AND “•”. STILL NOT KERNED YET.
Add: 2469
@MerryBot It's probably the nudging of bricks causing this. A little nuisance, but a small price to pay for full control of bricks…
@BWM @Merrybot
Correct. I nudged most of the round parts and accents. I feel so exposed.
This doesn’t affect the download.
UPDATE
• KERNED ALL THE NEW PUNCTUATION.
• ADDED THE FULL NUMBERBET.
@Merrybot
Yeah! I’m not happy with some of the numerals though, and it still needs kerning.
@Merrybot
NUMBERBET
[ˈnɐmbɐbitʰ]
Noun
A collection of numerals, typically arranged from lowest to highest value.
Derivatives: “Numberbetical”, “numberbetically”, “numberbetinate”, “numberbetination”
See also: “Alphabet”, “colourbet”, “shapabet”
@Merrybot
I made it up! :D
And the “i” is equivalent to “ɛ” in most dialects.
I wonder if it'll be added to the dictionary at some time…
@BWM
“Dictionary”? Don’t you mean: “wordabet”?!
@Merrybot
Yeah it does for your accent. But in New Zealand the letter “e” makes an I.P.A. “i” sound. I feel like I’ve told you that before.
So basically, we pronounce: “set” how you’d pronounce: “seat”.
UPDATE
FINISHED KERNING THE LAST OF THE 39204 PAIRS BY HAND. PHEW! THAT’S SOMETHING THAT I NEVER WANT TO REPEAT. WORDS CAN’T DESCRIBE THE PAIN I’M IN.
What a hard work here! And what about to add an spanish Ñ to the set? You can incorporate a new language to the list adding only one glyph...
Something like this.
-a spanish Ñ- Sorry.
... Hydroalcoholic gel is doing crazy things on me...
Add the rest of Latin-1 Supplement except for lowercases and punctuation.
I think kerning works up to 65,535 pairs… After that, the kerning file might become useless…
@MerryBot 14.7k, but FontStruct can still save a font with letters outside the normal charsets…
Also, TCM has a capital esset at u+1E9E (ẞ)
@elmoyenique
Sorry, no more languages. It takes a considerable amount of kerning for even one character. You’re free to clone it and add to it yourself, though.
@BWM @Merrybot
Keep in mind that while I did examine 39 204 pairs, not all of them were kerned to a nonzero value.
@Merrybot
I did think about that, but you can just type out: “SS”.
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Congrats on the Top Pick, TCM!
Thank you. My fifth ever Top Pick! I can still remember my first, where I said: “I don't really know what [diacritics are] for”. Now that I’ve been using FontStruct for three years, I know only too well. Still, that’s nothing compared to the decade that users with the likes of “elmoyenique” and “Frodo7” have spent here!
@TH3_C0N-MAN - Congratulations on the well-deserved TP.
@Goatmeal
Thank you.
@Goatmeal
Oh, I should have included you in my comment above too!
By the way, I’ve always admired your profile picture.
@TH3_C0N-MAN - Thanks! ;^)
@TCM How do I input characters that are not on the keyboard into the FS User Input?
@Hensily Copy and paste them via Charmap?
It did work! Instead of right-clicking, I used Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V!
I will clone and make my own.
I love how you put a stroke on alpha and Russian A to distinguish it from lambda and Russian L.
@Hensley Dodson (Hensilly)
I didn’t have much choice! ;)
Nah I’m fine with it.
I used this font in my latest video: https://youtu.be/00hpriGwefc
Nice eurobeat mix! And font as well.
I watched. Nice mix... font too.
@V. Sarela (Yautja)
@Piotrkowy
Heh, thanx.
Whoah, exactly 100 comments!?
@Hensley Dodson (Hensilly)
Woohoo
Look! We made it to 103 comments now!
104 comments! This got a lot of attention…
when there is something to be improved, Ж can be similar to the funny K
@I19 TCM doesn't usually write "Ж" like his signature K
@I19 Did you mean that "Ж"?
Хороший шрифт, но восклицательный знак можно было бы сделать менее наклонным.
The exclamation mark is fine how it is. They are inherently supposed to be expressive. I gave it a slant to exaggerate that.
Rmnztn.:
Horoshij shrift, no vosklitsatel'nyj znak mozhno bylo by sdelat' melee naklonnym.
*menee
@Hensley Dodson (Hensilly)
Right. Thanks for that.
I.P.A. is the only true transliteration!
[xɐˈroʂɨj ʂrʲift no vəsklʲɪˈt͡satʲɪlʲnɨj znak ˈmoʐnə ˈbɨɫə bɨ ˈzʲdʲeɫətʲ ˈmʲenʲɪje nɐˈkɫonːɨm]
And in X-SAMPA:
/x6"ros`1j s`r'ift no v@skl'I"t-\sat'Il'n1j znak "moz`n@ "b15@ b1 "z'd'e5@t' "m'en'Ije n6"k5on:1m/
COPPERZ
Wow...
This is so epic, very sci-fi. Really like what's going on with that "K", it's very interesting.
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